Al Downs Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 If a pilot is Multi Commercial and now wants to go Sport, does he need a Sport Pilot check ride. Will the higher rating work on a ramp check without a medical? What does he need to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 If a pilot is Multi Commercial and now wants to go Sport, does he need a Sport Pilot check ride. Will the higher rating work on a ramp check without a medical? What does he need to do? Nothing, he's good to go. Basically he's a higher-certificated pilot exercising sport pilot privileges. He just has to abide by the SP rules...no IFR, no night flight, no flight above 10,000ft, aircraft within LSA limits, current BFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Meade Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Altitude limited to 10,000 MSL or 2,000 AGL, whichever is higher. You must abide by any restrictions on your driver's license (glasses, etc., etc.). If you decide to add a category or class, you will get an endorsement in your log rather than a new pilot certificate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 abide by the SP rules...no IFR, no night flight No night flying? I didn't know that. Why do I have this nifty LED headlight? :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 No night flying? I didn't know that. Why do I have this nifty LED headlight? :blush: Because sometimes people other than sport pilots fly CTs. The regs are very clear; sport pilots are limited to day VFR only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 The regs are very clear; sport pilots are limited to day VFR only. I can understand these limitations for someone who has only trained to light sport standards. They make no sense for a Private or Commercial or ATP who simply chooses to let his medical lapse - like myself (Commercial, CFI, CFII, CFIME) I still possess the skill set for night flying or flying over an overcast or over 10,000'. Nothing has changed in my abilities, all I lack is the medical. So it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Meade Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 The headlight - I don't know. To warn the coyotes you are on the taxiway, maybe? No requirement to have it to fly at night, as far as I know. I used to train people to land with no lights - (most are better - can you guess why?) The other lights you need to fly between morning civil twilight and sunrise and the obverse at dusk. It's legal to fly day VFR in those times but you have to have your marker lights on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 OK just so I get this right. It's the aircraft (S-LSA) that can't be flown at night. Even if the pilot is ATP rated he can't fly a CTLS after sunset? Separate question. Where can I find the complete list of limitation? TIA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 OK just so I get this right. It's the aircraft (S-LSA) that can't be flown at night. Even if the pilot is ATP rated he can't fly a CTLS after sunset? Separate question. Where can I find the complete list of limitation? TIA! The airplane can be flown at night by the holder of a private pilot or above, as long as they have a current medical. The limitations for the airplane can be found in CFR 1.1 and on the operating limitations that go with your airworthiness certificate. The pilot limitations can be found in CFR 61 for the different levels of pilots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmInce Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 If a pilot is Multi Commercial and now wants to go Sport, does he need a Sport Pilot check ride. Will the higher rating work on a ramp check without a medical? What does he need to do? Is the above pilot also qualified to fly SEL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Thanks Tom! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted August 27, 2012 Report Share Posted August 27, 2012 Is the above pilot also qualified to fly SEL? Nice catch. MEL does not include SEL privileges. And, again, to clarify: if and when I get my medical back, I can again fly my E-LSA Sky Arrow at night, above an overcast, above 10,000', etc. Conceivably even IFR if it was equipped. It's not, and I have no plans to make it so. Can get confusing, I admit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 Separate question. Where can I find the complete list of limitation? TIA! FAR Part 61 subprt J (61.301 - 61.327) Especially 61.315 Doug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted August 28, 2012 Report Share Posted August 28, 2012 I can understand these limitations for someone who has only trained to light sport standards. They make no sense for a Private or Commercial or ATP who simply chooses to let his medical lapse - like myself (Commercial, CFI, CFII, CFIME) I still possess the skill set for night flying or flying over an overcast or over 10,000'. Nothing has changed in my abilities, all I lack is the medical. So it goes. I totally agree. In fact, why anybody who is fit to fly day VFR is suddenly a menace at night or if it gets cloudy escapes me. But a private pilot flying under sport limitations has for purposes of the regs been "demoted" to a sport pilot. I'm not saying this makes sense, but welcome to government regulation. :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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