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#1 markmn

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 04:28 AM

Tecnam is exploring the possibility of developing a P2008 with the Rotax 914.

This is a market that Flight Design has not explored so we are looking for feedback from CT owners.

The main advantages would be for owners using their aircraft for travel and want as much speed as legally possible.

The aircraft would be able to quickly and easily climb above the chop into smooth air and fly at the legal 10000ft altitude while maintaining the legal 120 kts calibrated airspeed Per LSA rules. This would translate to approx 147 kts true air speed at 10000ft at a very low fuel burn. This would be a very economical way to travel. we are hoping for 30-35 MPG. This would also be a great option for owners who fly in higher elevations.

We understand there will be some prop inefficiencies due to the fixed prop but believe we can minimize this with some new prop technology that is available. The aircraft would be equipped with a ground adjustable prop so it can be individualized for each owners desires.

There has been emphasis on weight reduction on the latest P2008s and we expect empty weights will be 20 to 25lbs heavier than the current CTLS with the 912 uls. The 914 is close to the weight of the new 912i.

We already have some depositors but would like a few more to get this project moving!

please contact me if you have interest.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 04:02 PM

I get to fly some in the far west mtns behind a 914 in a Europa.

a 914 would be a tremendous improvement in speed and climb.

A flight to Los Angeles would permit me to cruise above the sierra nevada at higher altitudes and speeds.

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:47 PM

As a relatively broke CTSW owner, I'll not be buying any new airplane in the foreseeable future :)

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#4 CharlieTango

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Posted 18 October 2012 - 06:59 PM

As a relatively broke CTSW owner, I'll not be buying any new airplane in the foreseeable future :)


ditto




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Posted 20 August 2013 - 08:44 PM

Just saw this video on Dan Johnson's site. It really intrigues me. Why aren't they selling a bunch of these? Seems they should be all over the place. I've always felt that Flight Design had the market sewn up for years but this seems like a worthy competitor.
I'd really have to consider this if I ever went back to an LSA


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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:12 PM

Saw two on static display at OSH. Very sweet looking planes. The new paint job is slick. More Cirrus than CTLS. Don't know how many they sell though and considering Tecnam's worldwide sales can't figure out why the FD ecosystem in the US seems so much stronger than their's. That made a big difference to me in my purchase decision.

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Posted 20 August 2013 - 09:18 PM

Didn't see any mention of a BRS option. That would be a big deterrent for me.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 12:01 AM

How about building one and having it spend a month under te control of a few members of this board. You will get the good and bad of the aircraft in short order. Your company just has to leave its feelings with the keys.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:23 AM

It would certainly help at altitude or high density take offs, but will be hampered by a ground adjustable prop. It really needs to be mated with an in flight adjustable prop to use it to its potential.

The 912ULS is an $18K engine and the 914 $31K. There are far and few people that have any decent knowledge of the 914 and it takes more care and maint. than the standard 912. There is nothing wrong with the engine and works very well, just go in with your eyes open. You'll need a computer at times to diagnose any problems and will almost certainly need a Rotax trained individual to work on it. I talk to many owners trying to do their own work and untrained mechanics and it's quite frustrating because you have more things going on and parts to consider for maint.

I like the engine it just takes a little more knowledge to own one and to maintain it.
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#10 CharlieTango

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 01:36 AM

My best friend's rotax is a 914 and the maintenance has been simple to date. The 914 performance with an in flight adjustable prop is phenomenal.

It would be painful to have the 914 but be stuck at a single setting. Recently we heard good reports on a flexible DUC prop, maybe there is a path there.

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:03 AM

Flexible DUC is more hype than reality. They have tried flex props over many years. If they were that great they would be what we all had and what was on the market from other Mfg's. When I tested the Sensenich they sent me flexible props and stiffer ones. They all flew the same. Someone would have to show me irrefutable proof about them now that I have already done some test. A conclusive test not an individuals one time use opinion.

Kind of like the old Slick 50 oil.
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#12 CharlieTango

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 02:07 AM

Flexible DUC is more hype than reality...


You already sold me, thats why I bought your old prop. Since then a member has posted that he has seen the remarkable results that DUC claims. Endorsements sell!

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 06:17 PM

Because of cost and maintenance, I wonder if a 130hp UL Power engine might be a better choice than the 914. That said, I trained in a Tecnam P-92 Echo Super, and it was the best flying LSA I have ever piloted.
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Posted 21 August 2013 - 07:30 PM

Why didn't you buy one instead of the CTSW Andy?

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:09 PM

Why didn't you buy one instead of the CTSW Andy?


Good question! Useful load is lower, range is lower, speed is lower, cargo is lower, no BRS. If I was just buying a plane to enjoy flying around the patch and for short distances, the Tecnam is great. The CTSW is better as a traveling machine though, and is still plenty fun to fly.
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Posted 21 August 2013 - 11:33 PM

The Tecnam p2008 is a joke compared to the CTLSi. The entire design is a ripoff of the antiquated Cessna 172. High wing with struts, analog cockpit, half carbon fiber/half metal, 45inch cabin width (4 inches narrower than the CT), 29 gallon tank vs 34, 44lbs baggage vs 110, two blade fixed prop vs three blade variable.

No thanks.

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 01:28 AM

Three blade ground adjustable, not variable. Variable implies variable pitch.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:22 AM

I guess the turbo 914 Rotax is a joke also. I don't know about all of you, but i sure wished I had a turbo on my CTLS going into Bryce canyon. It wasn't bad getting out of there but it sure would have given a little more comfort level when near gross wt.

Also, any type of glass cockpit is available.
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Posted 22 August 2013 - 02:29 AM

the 914 is the game changer, the question is to what extent?

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 03:00 AM

. . . "The Tecnam p2008 is a joke compared to the CTLSi." . . .


Have you ever flown a Tecnam p2008?




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