FlyingMonkey Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 The fuel injected engine does not have carbs, and has corrected earlier problems with fuel filters and hoses that were prone to damage by E10. Ah, so the CTLSi is immune to the five year hose replacement? I bet not. If you want to be bullet-proof on E10, get the latest CTLSi. If you want to fly mogas in older FD make sure to make the changes cited in the service bulletin. That was my point, there ARE NO changes cited in that service bulletin. It's completely informational about best practices on how to manage the use of ethanol blended fuel in any Flight Design aircraft. There is not a single "change this" or "fix this" recommendation in that document. Anyhow this thread was not supposed to be about this, so I won't post about it again here. I'm sure Roger is tired of saying "we're all good with ethanol" as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 One big issue is the fuel valve behind the panel. First it doesn't hold up and 2nd its close to the low point so if there is phase separation it could get a pure ethanol bath and pee gas in your cab. They are likely all replaced by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted June 24, 2013 Report Share Posted June 24, 2013 One big issue is the fuel valve behind the panel. First it doesn't hold up and 2nd its close to the low point so if there is phase separation it could get a pure ethanol bath and pee gas in your cab. They are likely all replaced by now? It was fuel filters that needed replaced, not fuel valves. I pulled out some of the early plastic filters that were in really bad shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 I'm sure Roger is tired :wacko: of saying "we're all good with ethanol" as well. Thanks Andy. Other LSA may have problems, but the CT's have been good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 how long will it realistically take for a new ctls by factory? can u pick it up at factory? although Sebring is close and they have a dealer with the 5 hour transition course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Your two best choices are to call FD USA in CT or to call Airtime Aviation in Tulsa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Wow. Glad I asked I figured it was like buying a car - walk in, pick it up, fly on out Learn something new everyday. I guess thats why there is not a lot of new ones for sale! Thanks everyone! The input is fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Recent builds are taking a year. You can pick one up at the factory, at least you could when they were promoting the Jubilee edition. Contact FD directly and get your options. If you are just starting your training now, order one soon and you will have your plane just after you license if you keep at it. A year to get a sport license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 Stanton, MN has three more coming. Last I heard one is not sold - they originally intended it for their own use, but are willing to sell it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 A year to get a sport license? I sure hope not I can schedule 2 hours a week, sometimes 4 hours a week.. hoping by end of year - but thats just a guesstimate. Maybe sooner! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Stanton, MN has three more coming. Last I heard one is not sold - they originally intended it for their own use, but are willing to sell it. Thanks for the info Doug! Might be a bit soon but i'll inquire.. Can you spec your own avionics with a new build? I see Garmin lowered the price on the G3X and has a new A/P and optional G 305 control. Would love to get that with maybe the GTN 750 with built in radio and xponder if they will do that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 There are options, but they are mainly more, or less things included, not so much choices of brands or specific versions of devices. I have no idea how the Stanton plane is equipped. Of the two I saw that were recently assembled one was minimally equipped and the other had all the bells and whistles. (Both of those were sold to customers and probably ordered that way.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Rock n ROll. Thanks Doug. I sent an email late last night to FD USA. I guess I better get on the ball!! Never thought i'd be ordering a plane during lessons. but if the planes hot, its hot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 This keeps confirming that this is a great plane! Can't wait to fly one! Thank you! ... but if the planes hot, its hot! I've owned a CT for 7 years and it is a fine aircraft. There are hundreds of other owners here that will tell you the same thing. CTs are short coupled and highly maneuverable so they are not perfect for every mission. As a personal aircraft its hard to go wrong because you have time to advance your skills if they are not up to the demands of a CT. I'm reacting to your statements above, its a very fine aircraft but I read a lot of emotion into your statement and the fact that you are at this state prior to flying one. Buy a CT because you appreciate the value, performance and capabilities, not because of hype that is best expressed by saying 'its hot'. My 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul m Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Ed I took eMini to mean that he needs to order one before he had planned to because it has a long wait time due to being in high demand, i.e. "its hot"., not that he was buying one because its hot in the stylistic sense. I think you're right though that many things should be considered before purchasing any plane, not the least of which is how it flies so he should spend plenty of time flying this and other LSA before deciding which is right for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 FYI, the SW is shorter coupled than the LS because of the shorter fuselage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I've owned a CT for 7 years and it is a fine aircraft. There are hundreds of other owners here that will tell you the same thing. CTs are short coupled and highly maneuverable so they are not perfect for every mission. As a personal aircraft its hard to go wrong because you have time to advance your skills if they are not up to the demands of a CT. I'm reacting to your statements above, its a very fine aircraft but I read a lot of emotion into your statement and the fact that you are at this state prior to flying one. Buy a CT because you appreciate the value, performance and capabilities, not because of hype that is best expressed by saying 'its hot'. My 2 cents. CT - Point very well taken! I appreciate it - alot! I thought for a moment that I was putting the cart before the horse... but with 1 year out - well I dont think so anymore. I honestly like the looks of the CT alot more than the Skycatcher. Thats what first got me attracted to it. But more and more I read it just seems its the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Skycatchers are built for training... CT's are built to go places... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mocfly Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Well said! I have flown ours from TN to NEW JERSEY, ORLANDO, HOUSTON and of course OSH. I wouldn't think of flying anything else that distance. The one time I flew our 172 from TN TO MICHIGAN I cried all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I totally agree, Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 My plans are absolutely to travel!! Ground school tomorrow and going UP Saturday!! can't wait... Except I know it is going to be BRUTALLY hot Saturday - but i'll pull through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 The CT handles the higher DA's well. I have been flying everyday this week with takeoff DA's at 9000'. You do see a bit longer takeoff rolls and lower climb rates but so much better then a Cessna 150/172 or Cherokee. I still have no problem making pattern altitude by the downwind turn with a hefty student onboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 DA 9,600' early this morning. On days like this it takes 7 seconds for me to get airborne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 N413F coast to coast, boarder to boarder, North to South, East to West, now in Hawaii flying. CTLS make the country seem a little to small, need to solve that no medical internationa flying thing. Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted June 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Make sure to do your density altitude calcs. the combo of heat and moisture changes your altitude and performance radically. I'm so new at this that I dont even know what that means :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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