WmInce Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 RV people are just as prone as real humans to exaggerate performance numbers. Does that imply that somehow "RV people" are not "real humans"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 The CT is no doubt a great airplane with a lot of features for an LSA. Remember also that a four seat airplane isn't JUST a four-seater...it's also a two seater that can carry a TON of stuff for camping, long vacations, etc. if needed. Even better! I have 2 boys - so the thought of flying them to go camping is great! Or of course a weekend Bahama trip works too one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Emini- sounds like you have yourself and three passengers to take camping, etc. If that is your mission, don't bother with a C-182, get a C-206 or Cherokee 6. Those are true 4 place and a lot of stuff airplanes. A fuel injected 206 burns very little more than a similar vintage 182 with carb. After having a 206 for 18 years I stepped down to a 182. That was a mistake. With full fuel, you could still legally put 1100# in my 206. My 2 cents, worth what you paid for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Emini- ... get a C-208 ... true 4 place and a lot of stuff airplane... The one parked next to my CT even has a toilet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 OOPS! I meant "get a C-206". Although I gotta admit, a 208 would really do the job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Also edited the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 OOPS! I meant "get a C-206". Although I gotta admit, a 208 would really do the job! No kidding, it could probably take the 206 as cargo if it were disassembled. Maybe with a couple of passenger seats free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I actually got 30 min. PIC in a C-208 back when. There were 14 of us on board a factory demo. The Cessna demo pilot had to show me how to start it but other than that it was mine. He said just take of and land it like your 206. He wasn't far off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Wow - yaeh just checked out the 206. Nice! NOt sure that I can spend that much Found a couple used Diamonds for 150 - 200K - thats the top end of what I can spend... Don't make the big money like you guys do !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 http://www.barnstorm...CESSNA 206.html http://www.barnstorm...B TU - '67.html Both in your range, especially once you sell the floats on the first one. An older 210 would probably do the trick too, and for a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Another place to look is www.skywagons.com. You should be able to get a nice 206 for under $150K. A 205 is also an option, essentially the same plane but older and with less HP. If possible you want a U206 which have double cargo doors but only one door up front on the pilots side. A P206 has two doors up front (one each side) plus a smaller cargo door in back. You may be able to get a P206 cheaper but it may be harder to sell since most want the U206. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I know that I should not ask however never having flown an RV-9 I would like to know. This past week at the Page flyin my CTLSi on several flights was performing about 110 knots, 8500 feet at fuel burn of 3.6 gallon fuel burn level flight. This was at 5050 RPM and 1300 lbs calculated weight. Can a RV -9 perform at this economy rate? my hanger mate's RV-9 sure looks good. Out of curiosity, did you get to fly alongside other non injected CT's? If so, what insights can you share about climb and cruise performance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 I trained and got my Sport license in a Skycatcher and I currently own a CTLS. I am 6'1" and also weight 220 lbs. I enjoyed the Skycatcher as a trainer. I don't remember the seats being overly comfortable, or uncomfortable. In the CTLS I have not had any back issues on three hour stints, although I do believe the pump up lumbar support could be better placed. One issue with the Skycatcher was that it does not have a baggage compartment, just a net over the area behind the seats. It has plywood floorboards and seats that do not move - there is a knob that moves the pedals forward and back. It also has a castering nose wheel, which for me personally is a negative. At one point they had a problem with doors opening in flight so they added an extra latch. The skycatcher is very utilitarian. The other negative for me is that Cessna is very reluctant to allow anyone but their dealers work on the planes. I would suspect that an LSRM would not find a great deal of help from them. My final assessment is that it is a good trainer, but I would not purchase one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 http://www.barnstorm...CESSNA 206.html Wow. how do you gusy find this stuff I need to work on my search skills! I thought Tradeaplane and controller was it ! http://www.barnstorm... - '67.html Both in your range, especially once you sell the floats on the first one. An older 210 would probably do the trick too, and for a lot less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 I think Barnstormers has more ads than TaP and Controller combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EminiTrader Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Thats good to know Andy - thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Out of curiosity, did you get to fly alongside other non injected CT's? If so, what insights can you share about climb and cruise performance? I followed others on the fly outs from Page to several locations, always last in line. I think the prop is pitched for about 5600 RPM WOT. I could not find any real difference in the CTLSi performance either from The SW ahead or my own CTLS that I have in Honolulu. Maybe the fuel difference is more than 20% less! to soon to tell. The startup is much different. Fast easy start but then it slows to about 1625 RPM and makes much rattle sounds. Must move to about 2100 for warm up. Will only start if both batt and gen are engaged first. Also after a short warm but before 120 oil I ran to 3000 for a few moments so that the second gen would come online. Dynon with screen options is simply GREAT, much improves the utility of flight planning and view. Only 30 on flaps but no big deal. Love both CT, more later. N413F, N413L Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 25, 2013 Report Share Posted October 25, 2013 Thanks Farmer. That rattle at 1625 is your gearbox telling you it's not happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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