liltaka Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 My wife and I decided to visit Bisbee AZ this month between 17th~21st for crosswind landing & also general piloting class at Copper City Aviation! I am currently counting down the days to start my training... My post license flights has been challenging due to the weather in Chi-beria (aka Chicago). On top of the bad weather, I recently became lazy weekend pilot who only like to fly in "<10kts head wind in sunny day" and I really want to overcome my fear of the "gusty & crosswind" days. My personal goal is to at least be consistent with my landings from left & right seats to be able to control the CT up to 15~18kts crosswind with gust up to 10kts. I think I will be able to master consistant crosswind landing...but I have a "fear" towards gusty winds... Also, switching to the right seat did not help with my confidence...Now I feel like went right back to the pre-solo flight days... I really need to get over my fear of wind and ready to get my game face on to tackle this straight on at the Copper City Aviation. I must say...brace yourself Eric, I will be the most challenging student ever! BTW - after visiting Bisbee AZ, we are planning to visit Albuqerque, NM...does anyone know flight school where we can rent CT near Albuqerque? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 Hi Taka, We are looking forward to your visit and if the weather continues as it has the been the last couple weeks your going to get more crosswinds and turbulence then you can stand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted May 2, 2014 Report Share Posted May 2, 2014 I could use this training as well...I'm currently generally a "ten knots or less" flyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony & Rose Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 re:Albqu. NM -- Chase down Bonnie Mauldin Aviation. She has moved, but is still near that area. I'd think Eric would know how to reach her.... TM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted May 3, 2014 Report Share Posted May 3, 2014 Bonnie Mauldin505-440-8481 Hi Tony, How are you guys doing? Haven't seen or heard from guys in ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted May 4, 2014 Report Share Posted May 4, 2014 Thanks Roger. Hi Tony and Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltaka Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Hi Tony, Rose, Roger, Thanks, I just called her and left a message on her voice mail. Roger, if you can't flying into Bisbee next week, then we will drive up and come and to see you. Many be we can grab some to eat with you Tom, Bill and Dawn... Hope to see you soon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted May 10, 2014 Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 Crosswinds were here in Bisbee today Taka! Cheryl and I had 20-25 knots direct during landing today, not fun but will be good training for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltaka Posted May 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2014 20-25 knots direct crosswind...wow... I kind knew that you guys fly CT like luke skywalker on the death star... But, come on! 20-25 direct is a bit too much for me no? :unsure: I know Roger also says he can land on 20-25 direct and I do believe that for sure... For you guys is like driving a car, but for us is like riding a bull... I am actually scared out of my mind even thinking about 20-25 knots head wind... I did some parttern work today on left seat with 11 knots @ 280 on 27...last landing was a bit arkward. Touchdown was ok, but the gust of wind took the plane back up in the air and I got panicked... I did settle it down again, but stil...it is like riding a cow down the runway... I have to keep telling myself fly the plane until shutting down the engine...but it is so easy to say it rather than doing it for sure... On top of that, I have to learn right seat and just so much challenges ahead of me. We are really excieted to be in Bisbee for the training of our life time! Oh~ BTW, here is today's recap with me on my CTSW DOING SOME PATTERN WORK TOGETHER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 There is nothing wrong with setting low personal limits. There are old pilots and bold pilots but not many old bold pilots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Eric, Don't use up all those x wind landings on your plane. I may need some next month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Eric, Don't use up all those x wind landings on your plane. I may need some next month. Hi Duane, I will make sure and save you a few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I found myself wishing for a 25 knot crosswind on a recent flight into Honolulu. I had been out flying around the island and we usually have a predictable tradewinds from 05 at 15-25. The runway 4R is 10000 feet a perhaps 200 feet wide. I like full stall landing, flying slowly just above the runway as long as practical and keep the nose wheel off as long as possible, after main gear down. The wind was moving around and was given to me, on a base to numbers, as 230 at 15 20. As I passed over the numbers the wind sock was standing straight out coming from my now six. I have never landed a LSA with a 15 plus, gusty tailwind. The visual clues were all wrong. None of my skills were prepared to do a full stall with that wind, how do you get down, keep nose wheel off. Therefore we had to plant, then slow. Just like the old day with my old cessna wheel dampner worn out, the front wheel went into a momentary shimmy. No visable damage. As I taxied off the runway atis announced runway switch and they were going the other way before I got parked. I think the controllers were just wanting a little enterainment, I know them to be very good guys. You are never done learning, in fifty years of flying that was a first for that type. Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 I have not done a go around at my home field for years, but yesterday I had 14 gusting to 24 as a 60° crosswind. This got pretty squirrely as I allowed the first time do I went around. Did more of a plant, instead of stall the second time and all was well. One of the few times I was wishing I had a low wing. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltaka Posted May 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Tailwind landing... 14-24 crosswind... Right...I think Farmer's point is to expect the unexpected, flying is just like our life story in general and learning everyday and never take anything granted... But, I always want to know the limit. To understand the personal limitations, I need this crosswind training at Bisbee... I know I won't be able to do tailwind, so I won't even bother...If that was me, I would went around the minute I realized I am trying to land with the wind. I don't think it is funny at all to think tower guys playing like that, if anything happened to you, I would not want to think my "having fun" turn into a disaster. Anyhow, my goal is "safety first", then everything else second. I will approach this like forging plant workers from Osaka, Japan. I see those people often and their greeting always start with "be safe". Again, playing or not. Safety first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 In my situation I don't believe the wind on the ground was that high. The only taxi problem I had was using the brakes a lot when I was taxiing downwind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted May 11, 2014 Report Share Posted May 11, 2014 Pilot in command means just that. If I had been concerned about tailwind I would have gone elsewhere. These ct's are very capable and comfortable aircraft. I doubt we have tested the limits yet. I expect to learn more this summer on our planned 10000 mile cross country trip. I MAY report more during or AFTER said flight. Stand by for spot track info Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltaka Posted May 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2014 HI Farmer... I think you meant to say "These ct's are very capable and comfortable aircraft." for you. But, we new bees are not that confident and need way more experience to do just that. Then again, I do have some confidence... I know I can get good at things, I know I can but not great...so I need to know my limits. 10,000mile flying trip would do some EXPERIENCE on anyone's flying resume. Good luck to you Farmer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liltaka Posted May 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2014 Wow, we had a blast in Bisbee! Eric & Cheryl are so calm & easy going. Great instructors and individuals...at the same time very professional and knowledgeable. Rarest and super beings! It was our honor to be able to learn from them. Thank you from bottom of our harts Cheryl and Eric! (Notice I changed the orders, so you won't be Iin Trouble!) Bisbee municipal airport is located near mountain, border, sloped, thermlized and windy. It was one of the most fruitful training we had in our short flying careers! Eric & Cheryl (copper city aviation) in mid May is a must go place for anyone who wants to concur CT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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