gbigs Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Can I be happy for you and jealous at the same time Hamburger? Well, I wouldn't be doing this if I was 40 and had a bunch of years left to slowly work toward the dream plane...but we wanna do some serious travel and the FD turned out to be a little too much roller-coaster and slow for us so we bit the bullet and bought a high-end cross-country plane instead of a second house. And coppercity....you bet...I am gonna need all the help I can get....we are pouring over every line and video from the Portal, and in a week or so will be doing 40 hours of transition and instrument training at the factory. We can tell from the material that it will take a good while and a lot of experience flying to really take advantage of what the plane can do. But after about 8 hours in one so far, I can easily see our 'world' just got a lot smaller and trips from N. Nevada to Arizona, Mexico, Colorado, or the East coast will be not just doable but more stress free too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Am I correct that a runway sloped at 45° would be a 50% gradient? In that case, not a huge difference in real life. I remember this confused me when I got certified as a Personal Trainer, in regards to treadmills, in that case.* In any case, Wimpy's never looked sloped to me, and I'm not picking it up in the videos, either. *I wonder if anyone has ever thought about putting an airplane on a treadmill? I'm gonna chalk it up to optical illusion with the mountains in the background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I'm gonna chalk it up to optical illusion with the mountains in the background. You didn't think when we landed it was uphill? Sure seemed so to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 You didn't think when we landed it was uphill? Sure seemed so to me. Definitely was uphill, but seemed steeper than the A/FD says. Heck A/FD says runways at KWDR are 0.5% and they feel pretty dang flat! AAAHA! The A/FD is WRONG! 60 foot elevation change in 3000' is 2.0%, not 0.2%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I calculated that 61ft difference based on 0.2%...so if something is wrong it's probably my calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I calculated that 61ft difference based on 0.2%...so if something is wrong it's probably my calculations. Grade is rise over run, so 60/3000 which is 1/50 or 2% (which would be 1.14 degrees slope). The A/FD says its 0.2%. The FAA's website that lets you report errors on the A/FD has a broken link, so left a VM with the Atlanta ADO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I took this photo of 9A0 a couple months ago: Hard to make out, but to me it looks higher on both ends and lower in the middle. And anyone know what the "Up/Down" below means? Says the same thing for RWY15, BTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I think I posted this before, but this may put in perspective what I think a sloped runway looks like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well, there is slope and there is SLOPE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyb Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 Well, I wouldn't be doing this if I was 40 and had a bunch of years left to slowly work toward the dream plane...but we wanna do some serious travel and the FD turned out to be a little too much roller-coaster and slow for us so we bit the bullet and bought a high-end cross-country plane instead of a second house. And coppercity....you bet...I am gonna need all the help I can get....we are pouring over every line and video from the Portal, and in a week or so will be doing 40 hours of transition and instrument training at the factory. We can tell from the material that it will take a good while and a lot of experience flying to really take advantage of what the plane can do. But after about 8 hours in one so far, I can easily see our 'world' just got a lot smaller and trips from N. Nevada to Arizona, Mexico, Colorado, or the East coast will be not just doable but more stress free too. You might add the Flight Academy's Alaska trip to your travel plans. My wife and I did it and it was a life experience. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluemeister Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I think I posted this before, but this may put in perspective what I think a sloped runway looks like! I thought you were never going to land! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted February 25, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I thought you were never going to land! It's really, really weird trying to flare as the runway just keeps falling away from you. The vast majority of my flying was in FL, so this kind of thing is still a bit weird for me. But fun! One rarely lands to the south at this airport, unless the wind is really strong from the south. Strong crosswinds are problematical enough that the wise thing is to go elsewhere to land until things calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluemeister Posted February 25, 2016 Report Share Posted February 25, 2016 I know how it ended but I was still nervous watching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbigs Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 As promised here is the CIrrus SR22T as picked-up at the factory just after the build. Flew the plane home 1400nm just after this photo was taken (9 hours, 2 fuel stops). About 21 hours on the Hobbs so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cluemeister Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 What a beauty!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted March 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 CONGRATULATIONS! And if you have not joined COPA, you need to so so forthwith - lots of good info there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbigs Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 CONGRATULATIONS! And if you have not joined COPA, you need to so so forthwith - lots of good info there. Thanks. We got a compimentary membership for a year from Cirrus. I am signing up tomm. I have done 18 hours of demo and transition flying...i have 6 hours left to finish. As you know the increased capability and increased complexity are much higher for the Cirrus versus the Flight Design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted March 19, 2016 Report Share Posted March 19, 2016 Beautiful aircraft. Enjoy. Safe travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted April 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Someone just posted this to COPA, and it's so nice I thought I'd share it: Exemplifies... 1) One secret to a good landing is a stable approach... 2) Nothing scary about a "stall landing" in a Cirrus... 3) Float? What float??? 4) Sedona should be on everyone's "bucket list". Karen and I got to mark it off in 2011 on our Page adventure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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