Jim Meade Posted October 24, 2013 Report Share Posted October 24, 2013 Details details, you know what I mean I do, indeed, know what you mean. But some newby might get the wrong impression. Not trying to be picky, just precise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Went for a sunset cruise this evening. Field elevation 180', climbed to 2500 MSL at 85K then set up for a 5200 cruise. OAT at altitude was 67F. When it all settled down, CHT was 195, oil temp 215. Seems high for 67F. Reduced power to 5000 and oil temp settled at 210F with CHT at 190. Roger, I did the same hose off the bottom of the engine reroute that you indicate above last Nov. My oil temps are getting worse but my CHT/OilTemp differential is growing. CHT remains normal and oil is 40F hotter than CHT. I ordered a digital candy thermometer so that I could confirm the reading while taking the existing ground out of the loop. John what was your before and after on the oil line re-route? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 Hey, is it possible the thermostat is going bad, if you have one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 No thermostat in mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandpiper Posted October 29, 2013 Report Share Posted October 29, 2013 No thermostat on mine either. CT - if there was any difference after the oil line re-route, I didn't notice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I flew today with a digital thermometer with the probe in the oil tank. The digital confirmed my gauge on my panel. I climbed to 250° on the panel and the oil tank was at 257°. I was 97° before startup and went to 90 in a few seconds after start as the cooler oil in the engine entered the tank. Temps in the tank had almost no lag time as the engine oil temp went up during the 5 minute climb and then back down. The lack of lag time makes me think the flow through the lines and cooler is good. Candy thermometer gets four stars, it worked very well. Now that I know that the gauge is not lying to me I am more determined to get this fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 CT, I'm not familiar with the "Candy Thermometer." Please explain or post a pix when you get a chance. Thanks, Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ed Cesnalis Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I see Lockwood sells a 'large' oil cooler, what size does a CTSW use? Do we all have the same size? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Hi Ed, I believe we already have the largest cooler. They come in 3.23" (82mm), 3.74" (95mm) and 5.16" (131mm) tall and 8.5" (216mm) long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mocfly Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 I believe that Flight Design uses a larger than standard with the glider tow package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 CT, Thanks for the pix. How is the probe installed in the oil tank without leaving the tank uncaped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 Gorilla tape worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 The tank is the wrong place to get the operational temp. It is the hottest oil temp and the oil temp probe is the coolest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 10, 2013 Report Share Posted November 10, 2013 The tank is the wrong place to get the operational temp. It is the hottest oil temp and the oil temp probe is the coolest. The tank ran 7 degrees hotter. If it was not hotter I would suspect my gauge was wrong. This was your idea in the first place it just took me years to get around to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Was that at flying temps or on the ground? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Ground was 60, I climbed over 2,000' into the 50s I do have one strip of tape on the radiator. I left it on to get temps up quickly, I was just trying to confirm temp was correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 There may be a bolt on solution or not. If not I think I need a higher capacity cooler even if one has to be fabricated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mocfly Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Contact Flight Design and ask about the size of the one in the tow package. It's a bolt on and no LOA is required as it is standard equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 ''Floats'' has a bigger one on his float CTSW. The rad is the same thickness and height but longer factory installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 ''Floats'' has a bigger one on his float CTSW. The rad is the same thickness and height but longer factory installed "Installation must be free of vibrations and pulsations"...HA! That is never gonna happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Thanks guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 http://www.setrabusa.com/products/oilcoolers/engine/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mocfly Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 You can buy them on eBay all day long under 200.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Hi Ed, The part number for the Larger Radiator is p/n C9997796M. Please fill out a MRA form completely with TT, Eng. s/n, etc and scan it to me. http://documents.flightdesignusa.com/PZ01000045_MRA%20form%20A.pdf There will be an engineering cost to produce this, I would estimate between $ 150.00 - 300.00. Sincerely, Dave Armando Director of Maintenance Flight Design USA (860) 963-7272 www.flightdesignusa.com Dear Dave Part number for larger oil radiator – C9997796M Best regards, Akim Zubkov Customer Care Department Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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