CT4ME Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 In order to fit under the "LSA" specs, the CT was dumbed-down a bit. In other countries, they allow features, like constant-speed props, that we can't have. They also get to use -12 degree flaps for cruising, which could add a few extra knots. That's a good question though... could it be sold into the US and flown? Probably for sure if it was switched to E-LSA, and flown by a PP. 'Nice bird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 In order to fit under the "LSA" specs, the CT was dumbed-down a bit. In other countries, they allow features, like constant-speed props, that we can't have. They also get to use -12 degree flaps for cruising, which could add a few extra knots. That's a good question though... could it be sold into the US and flown? Probably for sure if it was switched to E-LSA, and flown by a PP. 'Nice bird. In order to fit under the "LSA" specs, the CT was dumbed-down a bit. In other countries, they allow features, like constant-speed props, that we can't have. They also get to use -12 degree flaps for cruising, which could add a few extra knots. That's a good question though... could it be sold into the US and flown? Probably for sure if it was switched to E-LSA, and flown by a PP. 'Nice bird. I am commercial. Do you know how hard it is to switch to E LSA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocRon Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Kevin, Good luck on your search for a CTLS, and that you find one soon. THEN, join us up at Page in October for the yearly CT fly-in. You'd really enjoy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted July 9, 2014 Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ron, you are one of the few here that would refer to Page as "up.":-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Kevin, Good luck on your search for a CTLS, and that you find one soon. THEN, join us up at Page in October for the yearly CT fly-in. You'd really enjoy it. Thanks, Ron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2014 Ron, you are one of the few here that would refer to Page as "up.":-) I'm another one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 In order to fit under the "LSA" specs, the CT was dumbed-down a bit. In other countries, they allow features, like constant-speed props, that we can't have. They also get to use -12 degree flaps for cruising, which could add a few extra knots. That's a good question though... could it be sold into the US and flown? Probably for sure if it was switched to E-LSA, and flown by a PP. 'Nice bird. Looking at CFR 21.190 and 21.191 I don't see anyway to do it. It for sure can't be SLSA or ELSA, you might be able to do experimental exhibition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Looking at CFR 21.190 and 21.191 I don't see anyway to do it. It for sure can't be SLSA or ELSA, you might be able to do experimental exhibition. If the prop were changed to fixed or ground adjustable, and the flaps reset to only allow -6°, couldn't a DAR inspect it, certify it as conforming to the CTLS specs, and give it an S-LSA or at least E-LSA certificate? It's not really different from importing one by the factory, as long as the non-conforming aspects were changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul m Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 ..... I'm hoping to actually put some money back in the bank...... Didn't think was possible in aviation. Good luck in your search kevin. When I was deciding what to buy it was down to either a cirrus or ctls for me. I always thought that Cirrus should have chosen the ct when it was looking to enter the LSA market pre-crash (remember those days?). Strong simillarities. Easy to see pilots going from ct to sr to ct again in their progression over their flying lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Didn't think was possible in aviation. It's not, he's hunting unicorns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Didn't think was possible in aviation. Good luck in your search kevin. When I was deciding what to buy it was down to either a cirrus or ctls for me. I always thought that Cirrus should have chosen the ct when it was looking to enter the LSA market pre-crash (remember those days?). Strong simillarities. Easy to see pilots going from ct to sr to ct again in their progression over their flying lives. I'm actually glad that Cirrus stayed out of the LSA market, given what happened to themn over the next few years. It might likley have the the straw that broke... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 I'm actually glad that Cirrus stayed out of the LSA market, given what happened to themn over the next few years. It might likley have the the straw that broke... I'm a little bummer, they were going to market a re-branded FK Lightplanes FK-14 Polaris as their LSA. It looks pretty slick and I would have liked to see them more popular in the USA. http://www.fk-lightplanes.com/aircraft.php?af=3&ln=2&pg=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 It's not, he's hunting unicorns! Though I've never caught a unicorn, I did manage to bank/invest a decent differential when I sold my Cirrus and bought my Sky Arrow. So it IS possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Though I've never caught a unicorn, I did manage to bank/invest a decent differential when I sold my Cirrus and bought my Sky Arrow. So it IS possible. Precedent set! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul m Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Though I've never caught a unicorn, I did manage to bank/invest a decent differential when I sold my Cirrus and bought my Sky Arrow. So it IS possible. yes, and imagine your savings if you had bought a bicycle instead, or had never bought the cirrus in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 But imagine the emotional bank! At least mine is overflowing right now. We'll see in 20 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC Bill Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 I too came into the FD world from Cirri - about 4 years ago now. Email me N544CT@GMAIL>COM. Perhaps I can be of some help with your search. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul m Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Congrats on the new plane kevin. Looking forward to your cost of ownership comparison vs your cirrus a year from now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 I BOUGHT AN AIRPLANE! Pending the pre-buy inspection (with 90 hours and a fresh annual, should be a given!), I've adopted a new airplane. With luck, she'll be in my hangar in a week or so. Meet N789CT (seller's description): "A beautiful fully loaded 2012 CTLS with dual Dynon Skyview systems, Only 90+TT, Rotax 912ULS-2000 Hour TBO, Garmin 796 GPS / XM Weather, Terrain, Traffic , Satellite Radio. Garmin SL40 comm, Dynon Mode S Transponder, Trutrak CT Autopilot." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Sexy! What's the empty weight? I ask everybody, I'm curious about the CTLS weights as they seem to vary a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Congrats on the new plane kevin. Looking forward to your cost of ownership comparison vs your cirrus a year from now. Paul, That comparison will make me wonder why I took so long to recognize the massive drain on my flying fund! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZAV8OR Posted July 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Sexy! What's the empty weight? I ask everybody, I'm curious about the CTLS weights as they seem to vary a lot. Andy, I just asked for the W&B. Will post when he sends it. I did specify that I wanted the special helium tanks for the cargo area; that should lighten things a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Andy, I just asked for the W&B. Will post when he sends it. I did specify that I wanted the special helium tanks for the cargo area; that should lighten things a bit. I heard there's a special price on the hydrogen "Hindenberg" option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 It's a great looking plane Kevin. I'm looking forward to flying it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 That is one fine-lookin' panel and aircraft... you are going to have SO much fun. 'Time to sign-up for the Page Fly-in! Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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