Jacques Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 My 3 blade Neuform could be for sale it is like new 13 hrs how much should I ask for ? how much a new one sell for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why are you selling it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Why are you selling it? installing a Kaspar inflight ajustable.... like the majority of CT in Canada http://www.kasparaero.cz/en/eur/product/74/propeller_ka___2_adjustable_during_flight.html have 3 others spare prop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 You only have 13hr on a 2005 SW? Or have you had a different prop on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 13 hours on THIS prop.. The plane came new with the red 2 blade Neuform. ( Sold to Roger in 2010 ) then I had different ones. .. always have 'few' prop hanging on the walls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C ICEY Posted February 10, 2016 Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Enjoy the Kaspar, Jacques. It will make those 80 horses hum! Don't forget the propeller grease!! grin. regards mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2016 Thanks Scott $2500 wow..at that price I would have come down to install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I think the Neuform has hollow blades where the Warp Drive has solid blades. I think the complexity and cost of making hollow blades would be more. Scott, was the $2,500 paid directly to Flight Design, or through your local FBO? The more people in the food chain the higher the cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I think the Neuform has hollow blades where the Warp Drive has solid blades. I think the complexity and cost of making hollow blades would be more. Scott, was the $2,500 paid directly to Flight Design, or through your local FBO? The more people in the food chain the higher the cost. Neuform is carbon fiber over foam. Not hollow, but very lightweight cream filling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Neuform is carbon fiber over foam. Not hollow, but very lightweight cream filling. I thought I remembered seeing a cross section of a blade and it being hollow. I must have been a different propeller brand. Any way my point was the process of making the blades are likely different, and more complex for the Neuform. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I thought I remembered seeing a cross section of a blade and it being hollow. I must have been a different propeller brand. Any way my point was the process of making the blades are likely different, and more complex for the Neuform. The Sensenich is hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I did a little checking and it is the Sensenich composite propeller that has hollow blades. Edited to say, you beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I had to research it, but Warp Drive advertises "solid composite". My Sky Arrow equipment list shows an installed weight of 9.7 lbs, with the spinner at .9 lb. The CTLS POH I downloaded shows an installed weight of 13.59 lbs, possibly including the spinner. So it might appear that whatever the benefits of a hollow or foam core, weight savings is not guaranteed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I had to research it, but the Warp Drive advertises "solid composite". My Sky Arrow equipment list shows an installed weight of 9.7 lbs, with the spinner at .9 lb. The CTLS POH I downloaded shows an installed weight of 13.59 lbs, possibly including the spinner. So it might appear that whatever the benefits of a hollow or foam core, weight savings is not guaranteed. I have felt both, the Warp Drive blades are much heavier. But the Neuform hub is a solid machined block, I'm guessing that's where the weight is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 The Warp weight more . The Neuform weight is at the root much less inertia than the Warp. A Warp Drive with nickel protection exxceed the moment inertia for the Rotax 912 gearbox. http://eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=2010764613001 You don't want a prop strike with a Warp Drive,, it may suffer less damage but the splipper clutch and the prop shaft won't like it. Warp Drive is a good propeller, but it's an old 'design' (one fits all) while the other propellers are better designed and have different blade design depending of the planned purpose . http://www.stolspeed.com/id/62 enjoy the reading http://www.e-props.fr/16/designA.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I have felt both, the Warp Drive blades are much heavier. But the Neuform hub is a solid machined block, I'm guessing that's where the weight is.Could be. The Warp Drive hub is pretty substantial as well: Sorry for the hijack, though. Please resume your normal programming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 You are right Eddie, that looks beefy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 It has to be......with those heavy blades pulling... so..anybody wants a Neuform propeller ? NEUFORM CR3-65-(IP)-47-101,6 http://www.neuform-composites.de/index.php?f=1〈=en&site=propellers/ground-adjustable/propellers#3blatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 Scott, the Warp drive blades are not interchangeable, and the complete propeller assembly is not approved for your airplane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Lee Posted February 11, 2016 Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 I deleted the post with the warp drive reference when I realized it wouldn't work. I'm happy with the neuform props and we flattened the pitch about one degree and I gained about 8 knots at cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Posted February 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2016 . I'm happy with the neuform props and ........... gained about 8 knots at cruise. so..anybody wants a Neuform propeller ? NEUFORM CR3-65-(IP)-47-101,6 http://www.neuform-c...opellers#3blatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Depending on the year of the CT the Warp is approved because it was an option. You don't need an LOA and just need to file an MAR form. I had a Warp and did a lot of testing with it alongside the Neuform and Sensenich. The Warp is okay, but the others will out climb it by quite a bit. Because it is solid it is much heavier than a Neuform and should not be used with a Rotax with nickle edges or over 68". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Because it is solid it is much heavier than a Neuform... How do you explain the lighter weight for the Warp Drive compared to the Neuform on the Equipment Lists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted February 12, 2016 Report Share Posted February 12, 2016 Depending on the year of the CT the Warp is approved because it was an option. You don't need an LOA and just need to file an MAR form. I had a Warp and did a lot of testing with it alongside the Neuform and Sensenich. The Warp is okay, but the others will out climb it by quite a bit. Because it is solid it is much heavier than a Neuform and should not be used with a Rotax with nickle edges or over 68". If you look I said it was not approved for his airplane. I know it was used on some CT's early on, but his airplane is a 2010 CTLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Downs Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I could be interested. What do you want for it? How would it be affected by the inspection requirement? I know it is 1500 hours but what about its age? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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