gbigs Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 A Cirrus SR20 crashed near Houston a mile from Hobby Airport. Three were killed including a husband/wife and the husbands brother. The wife, a two year private pilot was at the controls. The parachute was partially deployed - pulled likely below the required 400 feet agl to be effective. Witnesses say the tower told the woman she was high on approach twice, each time she attempted a go-around. Witnesses also say she began to oscillate between 1800 feet and 200 feet before stalling the plane and crashing into the parking lot nose down. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3633979/3-dead-plane-crashes-car-near-Houston-airport.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 200 to 1800 feet...that's one HELL of a PIO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastEddieB Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Just tragic. Extensive discussion of the Hobby accident over on COPA. The female pilot has a rough time following instructions and "getting down", but never seems miffed at all, right to the bitter end. Audio here: http://archive-server.liveatc.net/khou/KHOU-Jun-09-2016-1800Z.mp3 I have always found Cirri quite forgiving, and even signed off a primary student in one. But there's no denying they can "bite" if provoked - there are two other eerily similar accident chronicled on YouTube. For some reason I can't paste either an embedded or raw link - it just shows blank as above. Maybe someone else can figure out how to post it. If you're a POA member, I successfully posted the link in post #9 to the relevant thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Eddie your post worked, there is a tool to use to listen to the audio. Listening to it is really creeping me out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbigs Posted June 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Winds from 100 why was tower landing aircraft on 35? That's a quartering tailwind. Then winds from 090 they switched her to runway 4? Now a near direct cross wind? The tower should have switched landing aircraft to 12R or even 12L. Even if 12 was closed this was a clear emergency though it was her responsibility to say she was unable and/or determine and request a more favorable runway based on the winds. KHOU Diagram.PDF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 No indication of fire from the pics. I wonder if it ran out of fuel versus a stall? Tragic shame indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 If a pilot thinks a wind is in the wrong direction and is unsafe for their aircraft they can ask for a different runway. I have done it a few times. Usually because the tower failed to switch runways with a tailwind. You might be delayed a little, but they must accommodate you. They can not force you to land in unsafe conditions and woe to the controller that causes a crash when he was informed it was a danger to the aircraft and the pilot is ultimately responsible to ensure a safe landing. He isn't the pilot and doesn't know what the capabilities of the plane or pilot are. Too many pilots are afraid or embarrassed to tell the controller or challenge them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 I am a bit confused. Were there one or two crashed? All I see is the tragic accident at Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doug G. Posted June 10, 2016 Report Share Posted June 10, 2016 Three other was in ND. Some sort of issue on takeoff. Piper Cherokee with three on board ceased into a lake not too far off the end of a small town runway. (Wishek, ND) Press made issue of the pilot being 19 yrs. old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted June 11, 2016 Report Share Posted June 11, 2016 Winds from 100 why was tower landing aircraft on 35? That's a quartering tailwind. Then winds from 090 they switched her to runway 4? Now a near direct cross wind? The tower should have switched landing aircraft to 12R or even 12L. Even if 12 was closed this was a clear emergency though it was her responsibility to say she was unable and/or determine and request a more favorable runway based on the winds. She couldn't get down twice, nothing like a tail wind landing to make you float forever and screw with your judgement on final. Even her eventual stall is easir to do with a tail wind because the ground is going by extra fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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