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Reading the specs on the different models now offered, it looks to me that the CTSW is being offered with 80hp Rotax @ 472.5kg.   The CTLS specs I see say this is now offered with 3 engine choices @ 600kg.

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1 hour ago, Runtoeat said:

Reading the specs on the different models now offered, it looks to me that the CTSW is being offered with 80hp Rotax @ 472.5kg.

Is that the CTSW or the CTSL (Super Light)?

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Hi Andy.  I re-read the specs for the CTSW and this is what I see with no "optional" items listed:

80hp Rotax - no Tundra package and 4.00-6 front wheel - analog only gages - elevator only trim - samel composite landing gear as CTLS - 600kg certified

I'm thinking this can be purchased here in the U.S. due to it listing 600kg certification

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17 minutes ago, Runtoeat said:

. . . the specs for the CTSW and this is what I see with no "optional" items listed:

. . . same composite landing gear as CTLS - 600kg certified . . . 

That is interesting.

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I wouldn't want an 80 hp and I would bet that may hurt sales. You already lose HP with the 100 hp so that puts an 80 hp even farther back and poor performance at higher altitudes and especially at higher DA's.

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I think everyone is making a big deal over nothing. They are not going to shove something down our throats that we don't want. I think what they are listing is for the European market. Wait and see what FDUSA list as available and pricing. 

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I would Agree.  It appeared to me that the published prices and information were for the European market.  If it turns out that this will only be offered with the 80hp, I would also agree with Roger.

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The 80hp engine is puzzling also because there is no weight advantage.  Maybe they don't want their less expensive model outshining their top tier (heavier) model...?

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20 minutes ago, Buckaroo said:

I’m putting a new 915 in my CTSW at 140 hp ASAP! Then I woke up!🤓

I think the 80hp 912 is a good platform for a turbo upgrade.  I've seen one long ago.

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18 hours ago, Ed Cesnalis said:

I think the 80hp 912 is a good platform for a turbo upgrade.  I've seen one long ago.

My buddy at the airport has that setup in his Rans 7. He can climb with the best of them but I can outrun him by 15 knots in my CTSW easily. 

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Our two new CT's have arrived in Aus. and are being assembled in the next couple of days. I will post photos soon.

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On 10/20/2017 at 8:00 AM, Buckaroo said:

Please come up here and do my service needs and go Elk Hunting!🤗

A little like 3 Christmas's and maybe a Thanksgiving or two.

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On 11/8/2017 at 9:59 PM, Ed Cesnalis said:

I think the 80hp 912 is a good platform for a turbo upgrade.  I've seen one long ago.

A used 80hp 912 with the 115hp Zipper big bore kit is another way to get great power at a low price.  It doesn’t help as much with the altitude problem where you fly, of course.

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23 minutes ago, FlyingMonkey said:

A used 80hp 912 with the 115hp Zipper big bore kit is another way to get great power at a low price.  It doesn’t help as much with the altitude problem where you fly, of course.

a big bore kit sounds internal where a turbo upgrade sounds like it won't fit in the cowl.  my guess is that it would require far less modification / customization and would be perhaps best option for a 2nd engine.  

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Curious, why you guys would buy another CTSW, but not a CTLS? Is it the difference in cruise speed? What is the consensus on the speed difference? Having flown both long distances, the CTLS certainly has advantages in comfort ( more reclined seating option)  and convinience with the hat rack for storing munchies, and misc stuff you want in the cockpit with you. I guess for some the weight is an issue? 

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1 hour ago, Scrapman1959 said:

Curious, why you guys would buy another CTSW, but not a CTLS? Is it the difference in cruise speed? What is the consensus on the speed difference? Having flown both long distances, the CTLS certainly has advantages in comfort ( more reclined seating option)  and convinience with the hat rack for storing munchies, and misc stuff you want in the cockpit with you. I guess for some the weight is an issue? 

The big advantage is empty weight, which is 50-150lb less than a CTLS.  That translates directly into useful load.  I have 575lb useful on my CTSW, the newest CTLSi models’ useful are about 90lbs lower.  Big difference when you want to take two people on a trip.

There are of course advantages to the CTLS.  They have more refined features and conveniences, but nothing in my mind that offsets the weight penalty.  I do wish my CTSW had the rear quarter windows so I could see better over my shoulder in flight.

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