12th Annual CT/LSA Fly-in, Page, AZ Oct 16 - 20, 2019

[Warmi]

12 hours ago, FlyingMonkey said:

I confirmed my room at the Clarion today.  Hopefully the weather will cooperate this year!

Hey , what is your plan to cross the divide ? Going along I-10 , perhaps I-40 ?

[FlyingMonkey]

7 hours ago, Warmi said:

Hey , what is your plan to cross the divide ? Going along I-10 , perhaps I-40 ?

We generally cross just south of Santa Fe, then you have a pretty straight northwest route where you can dodge the higher terrain by sight.  

If you are coming from farther north, that might be a long route, but it works really well for us coming from the Southeast.  Last time we overnighted at Norman, OK (KOUN) and made a single fuel stop at Tucumcari, NM (KTCC). From there we flew west just past Sante Fe (KSAF) and then dog-legged more or less direct to Page.

 

[Olav]

One month to the Bryce Canyon Pre-event...and Page is just a couple of days later.  I will be checking with both Ruby's Inn at Bryce and with the Page Clarion to get a read out on all reservations made to date.  I will then post confirmed reservations by name.  Any questions or issues please PM me.

[Warmi]

Confirmed my room today as well - $65 , that’s pretty darn cheap.

[Olav]

As of October 1 the following have confirmed rooms at the Page Clarion Inn under the "CT Group" for the $65 rate:

Todd Bristol

Steve Schroeder

David McNeill

Bill Ince

Phillip Styka/Olav Johnsen

Brian Leathers

David Patterson

Ron Kreienkamp

Phillip Welsch

Allen Kolp

John Langan

Hugh Sontag

Lee Bergmann

Darryl Swenson

Duane Jefts

Tom Grinoles

Ted Carlson

Andy Walker

Walter Rawbanik

If your name is not on the list you need to contact the Clarion Inn and ensure that they have you under the group "CT Group" and not on a non-group reservation.

I will be checking with Ruby's Inn in Bryce Canyon later today for a confirmed list of those reservations for the pre-event.

Olav

 

 

[DJ Todd B]

FYI - David McNeil is a friend of mine and is NOT going as he just started a new job.

[Duane Jefts]

Looks like Duane Jefts and Darryl Brechbill will be attending. Coming on Wed and looking forward to it.

[Warmi]

Wonder if understand the schedule correctly ....do people generally arrive sometime on Wednesday with the goal of making the 5-6 pm meeting ?

Thanks

[Olav]

Yes, people arrive through the day on Wednesday.  The 5pm meeting is a must in order to be in on the safety briefing, area flight procedures, and to sign up for various sightseeing flights you are interested in.  Of course you are also free to sightsee on your own..

[Warmi]

Makes sense - thanks.

[Olav]

Welcome!!!

2019 Annual Page, AZ  Fly-In Oct. 16 - 20, 2019

Page Fly-In Flight Information

 

                                      Bring your cameras!!

 

Here are the details for our different area flights. We are again adding Marble Canyon to our restaurant stop this year which is on the Grand Canyon route or you can visit it anytime as a solo flight. It is only a 10-12 minute flight from Page itself. These aren't etched in stone and you don't have to fly these if you don't want to, but be sure to get full information prior to departure so you don’t get lost. As we have done in the past we will break up in groups of 4-5 planes and each group will have a leader for your chosen flight out that morning. Then each evening at our social hour you can pick where you would like to go the next morning which may be with the same group or a different group. Having small groups limits the flight congestion within one area and makes the aircraft in the group easier to manage. We will discuss this further at the Wednesday evening social hour. ATTENDANCE IS REQUIRED to get all the Fly-In information.

We have the Clarion Hotel breakfast area to ourselves each evening for a social hour and to do safety briefings and scenic flight sign ups. Social hour meeting starts at 1700 hrs to 1830 hrs. Afterwards everyone is free to head to dinner at the restaurant of their choice.  Breakfast is either the free one at the hotel, out at a local restaurant or more likely during one of your group flights at the local airport restaurant. Late afternoon flights are another good time if you and others would like to fly and check out even more scenery and or grab lunch.

The flights below are round trips in a large circle and they can be shortened by quite a bit if you want to shorten the distance.
Bring three tie-down ropes for when we are away from Page at other airports.  Most have tie downs; Monument Valley has a cable but you will need your own rope.

General info:

                       Page, AZ Airport (KPGA) Runway 15-33 Freq. 122.8 Runway 33 is the preferred calm wind runway

                                                 FBO: Classic @ 122.85 Kris 928-645-5356

Chat frequencies are assigned for each group and for radio chat separation of each flight group while in different areas.  These will be assigned each night at dinner for the following day’s group flights.   Frequencies are 123.45; 127.45; 127.47 (“Jumbo”); 127.5; etc.

                                             Grand Canyon Flight

Grand Canyon (see Grand Canyon VFR map) round trip is approximately 173 miles 1.7 hrs.

Route: From KPGA head west with an easy climb to 10.5K to Fossil Corridor @ N36 22.87 / W112.18.70  and then turn south at the corridor head and monitor freq. 127.05. Always monitor this freq. while in the

Grand Canyon area. (You aren’t really that high off the rim as it is approximately 7500’elevation) Exit Fossil Corridor at 10.5K @ N36 16.43 /W112 34.97 and turn east along the Grand Canyon rim. Start a slow climb here to 11.5K to enter the Zuni north bound corridor @ N35 58.33 / W111 53.39 and exit  @ N36 17.38 / W111 51.04.

As you exit the Zuni corridor on the north side of the canyon you will be on the south end of Marble

Canyon and headed back towards Page which is a short flight home. While in Marble Canyon monitor 120.05). You will now start a decent into for the Marble Canyon airstrip (L41, Freq, 122.9, Elev. 3603’) and restaurant which is only 10-12 minutes south of Page. After breakfast it is only a 10 minutes flight back into Page.

NOTE:  Flight Lead, or independent fliers…you MUST have the special Grand Canyon VFR Chart, either paper or on your MFD/Tablet.  This is a requirement to fly across the canyon.  Fly outside the designated VFR Corridors and you will likely be violated.

 

                                             Monument Valley Flight

Monument Valley Airport (UT25) Runway 16-34. You only land on 16 and take off on 34 Freq. 122.9.Runway 16 is a slight uphill. This round trip is approximately 185 miles and 2 hrs. of beautiful zigzagging through Monument Valley. There is a restaurant and we will have breakfast there on Friday and Saturday flights. A van will be available to take us up the hill or if you prefer a nice definitely uphill morning walk.  (call (435) 727-3231)

  

KPGA to UT25. When you leave MV head north to Mexican Hat then west to Lake Powell and finally south down a lake finger tributary to KPGA.

This will give you only a general route and or you can and probably will zigzag around Monument Valley to take in all the sites. Flight altitude is up to you so long as you don’t run into a rock wall. (Only once)

 

                                      Bryce Canyon National Park Flight

Bryce Airport (BCE) CTAF Freq. 122.8 Runway 03-21.

KPGA to BCE which goes right over the top of the Hoodoos in the canyon, What’s a Hoodoo?  Wait and see, but have the camera ready. Land at Bryce Canyon for breakfast. A van will pick you up (call: (435) 834-5341) OPTIONAL: Take off and head southwest to Zion National Park general area @ N37 14.847 / W113 05.115 and fly down the Devils Backbone in Zion.(You’ll know it when you see it) Then turn back southeast to KPGA at this point.  Flights to Bryce will have breakfast at Bryce Canyon Ruby’s Inn.

     

 

                                     Escalante Flight - up Lake Powell and Escalante River Canyon to Escalante

Escalante Airport (1L7) CTAF 122.8, elevation 5737’.  Runway13/31.  5032’ x 60’.  Back taxi required to get to the ramp so space arrival accordingly to allow previous landing plane time to get to the ramp.  WE fly up Lake Powell to the confluence of the Escalante River (the last river to be “discovered” in the U.S.), then fly up the spectacular Escalante River Canyon to the airport.  ADVISORY:  The route up the Canyon of the Escalante River presents almost no emergency landing sites, being extremely rugged terrain.  Ensure you are comfortable with this type of flying before you sign up to go on this very scenic flight.  TENTATIVE:  We are met at the airport by a welcoming committee with coffee and transportation.  Drive into town and to breakfast.  Contact is; Louise Barnes(435) 616-4432.    

 

                                    Lake Powell to Sedona Airport Restaurant Flight

Sedona is KSEZ.  The elevation is 4,830’ and the airport CTAF frequency is 123.0, AWOS 118.525 or listen by phone at (928) 282-1993.  Flight Service (Prescott Radio) is 122.3.  Runway 03 - 21 is 5,132’ x 100’.   Runway 03 is 1.9 degrees uphill and unless winds are unfavorable, this is the landing runway while takeoff is favored on the downhill runway 21.  Note that this is a longer flight - at approximately 1 hour 20 minutes each way(calm winds) - than the others listed.

 

Social hour will be each evening (Wednesday - Friday) in the breakfast area of the Clarion Hotel from 1700 - 1830.  Bring your own alcohol if you want wine or beer. All other drinks they can be purchased from the bar along with light snacks.  The Clarion is really helping us out by extending this courtesy to us for our evening meetings so you are encouraged to purchase some drinks from the bar. IT IS IMPERATIVE YOU BE AT THE SOCIAL HOUR AS THIS IS WHEN WE DO SAFETY BRIEFINGS AND WHEN WE DECIDE ON AND SIGHN UP FOR OUR DAILY FLIGHTS, GROUPS, AND TIMES OUR FOR THE NEXT MORNING.

The final evening, Saturday evening October 21, banquet will be at the Dam Bar and Grill, 644 Navajo Drive, approximately 1/4 mile west of the Clarion Hotel, from 1800 until after dinner conversation winds down!

A 12 passenger Ford van has been rented from Avis and will be available to anyone wanting a ride from the airport upon arrival, to the airport each morning, and to the restaurant on Saturday.  Plus upon request to stores, local sights, etc.  Call Olav on his cell (505) 250-8417 to request/coordinate.  Other drivers will be available once we establish them and numbers will be provided at the social hour.

[cdarza]

Omg Did I get here too early?   LOL.  Just kidding.   Since I couldnt join y'all, I just had to drop by Marble and Page on my last months road trip in the area.   Spectacular from the ground so I can only imagine how much better it is from the air.  Wishing you all the very best on this wonderful trip.   Please keep us updated with stories and photos  

[DJ Todd B]

For those of US going to Bryce Canyon on Monday, What time are WE planning to arrive so we can all jump in the Shuttle and head for the Hotel???

 

[207WF]

Wayne is coming in N207WF, but not until Thursday.    Phone is (310) 374-5030.   See 'yall soon!   WF

[cdarza]

Kinda a unrelated topic but i just wanted to share in case anyone planning to rent a car on this trip or perhaps in any future trips.    I was driving a rental in the middle of Monument Valley and got a flat tire.   Would have been a easy fix but apparently some cars these days don't come with spare tires in the trunk.  They supply one of those slime temporary fix can thingys -  Didnt work in my case as the puncture was too big.    Anyways, - it was  a huge problem which i wont bore you with the details - but heads up - -check that rentals come with a spare.  

[Olav]

For the Bryce Pre-event group, this is a relatively informal event.  I am arriving around noon as are two other planes that have confirmed arrival around this time also.  While it makes it easier for Ruby's Inn shuttle to take everyone as a single group that is not critical...they are used to coming out to the airport to pick up arrivals.  However, to the extent we can make it efficient suggest arrival around noon on Monday though flight safety and your schedule is your own as PIC.  Ruby's Inn Shuttle phone number: (435) 834-5341. The name for the block of rooms at Ruby's is "CT Group" with a group confirmation number of 1388460.

No group events are scheduled other than we will fly out as a loose group on Wednesday to arrive Page as a group.  Tuesday's activities are whatever each person wants to do.  There is a free shuttle that runs the length of Bryce Canyon National Park, stopping at various overlooks.  There are also great hikes into the Canyon, ranging from short to longer.  One of my favorites is the "Wall Street Trail" hike.  

Due to forecast cold morning temps at Bryce Wednesday (mid-20s) and because our check-in at the Page Clarion Inn is not until afternoon recommend we not depart Bryce for Page much before 1130 to noon Wednesday. I suggest we gather in the lobby at Ruby's Monday night at 1800 (that's 6:00 pm for any non-military types! ) and have dinner there, to introduce ourselves to each other...a few new pilots are coming for the first time...and discuss schedules and any special requests or comments.  Buffet breakfast is included in the reservation.   Ruby's buffet breakfast is a majorly good feed!  

Finally, while the airport manager at Bryce has indicated tie downs will be available I recommend bringing a set of ropes/straps in case the provided tie downs consist of only a cable.  

If you have any specific questions, run into problems, give me a call on my cell (505) 250-8417.  See you at Bryce!

[DocRon]

Ron and Jan will plan on a noon arrival Monday.

[DJ Todd B]

Is anyone bringing a computer on this trip?  I will be shooting some GoPro video on this trip and need a way to download the Files from my camera to my 250GB HD.  

[Mike Koerner]

Hi Folks,

What I'm about to say, goes without saying. You already know it... but I'm going to say it anyway because if I didn't and something happened, I would be kicking myself forever.

When flying, especially in a light sport aircraft, you never have to be anywhere at any time. It would be the epitome of irony if you pushed into bad weather to make it to a required safety meeting.

I just got back from my ninth coast-to-coast round trip in my CT. I scheduled the trip from Los Angeles to New York with 3 extra days in case I was grounded by bad weather, knowing that if it looked like I would be stuck longer than that, I would rent a car from wherever I was and drive the rest of the way (I've done that twice). I got there 3 days early this time. And as bad as I wanted and needed to get back home after my meeting, I was comfortable with waiting two days for the weather to clear enough for me to get started.

 

Olav,

Thanks for managing another Page fly-in. This is an absolutely great thing for the participates, for the CT community and even for general aviation at large. I wish I was able to attend again.

Mike Koerner

[KentWien]

That’s great advice!

[Olav]

Mike, that is definitely good advice that all pilots should heed.  And that is why, as hard as it was to do it, we cancelled last years CT Fly-in at the last minute due to region-wide bad weather.  It is always the wisest course to err on the side of caution.  "Get-there-itis" can be a deadly affliction.  In fact, last year an hour after we made the call to cancel, a couple returning from a trip to California and afflicted with a bad case of "Get-there-itis" were scud running in bad icing conditions, iced up and spun in less than five miles from my home airport here.  Neither survived.  Five miles from home.  So close.  But an overnight stop just a couple of hundred miles to the southwest and they would have had a good ending to a nice trip together.  That accident one hour after the  cancel call sure reinforced that the cancel call was the right one.  "Get-there-itis" kills.  So everyone coming to the fly-in...be careful, use good pilot judgement, and cancelling is better than crashing.  There is always next year if you are faces with problematic weather.  

[DJ Todd B]

I am sure everyone has checked the weather already for the Southwest area and it looks absolutely Awesome for the entire week!  What a differencce a year makes. 

[Steve Schroeder]

Sorry to inform you we have to cancel for this year.  I hope everyone has a fantastic time!

Steve and Laura Schroeder

[Warmi]

Well, we decided to skip this year as well ...  on Tuesday , which was our day to get down to overnight at Liberal ( KS ) winds were just howling - should have left on Monday but my wife couldn't leave that early - I guess next year will try to get a large vacation buffer so we can actually have some room to "maneuver" ( pun intended )

Have fun.

 

 

[okent]

I love that app, by the way