Animosity2k Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 Have any of you removed the 796 yet for updates? I plan to do it this week and was wondering if anyone had any tips. Do I need any special tools to remove it and is there a special cable for connecting it to the PC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 14, 2019 Report Share Posted July 14, 2019 All airplanes may not be the same. On mine, midway up on the 796 to the right is a 3 mm hex screw you need to turn out approximately a quarter or turn one way or the other and that should release the 796. However, you need to grab the right side of the 796 and pull that out first. It may be difficult if it is in tight so you might have to pry a little bit but it Has to come out right side first. The left side has an antenna wire attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 On 7/14/2019 at 8:04 AM, Duane Jefts said: All airplanes may not be the same. On mine, midway up on the 796 to the right is a 3 mm hex screw you need to turn out approximately a quarter or turn one way or the other and that should release the 796. However, you need to grab the right side of the 796 and pull that out first. It may be difficult if it is in tight so you might have to pry a little bit but it Has to come out right side first. The left side has an antenna wire attached. Duane, the only reason I wanted to pull it is I recently noticed when ferrying it home the Frequencies were outdated for some airports compared to what foreflight has. Do they charge me to update those? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Cesnalis Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Animosity2k said: Do they charge me to update those? they = Garmin = yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Animosity2k said: Duane, the only reason I wanted to pull it is I recently noticed when ferrying it home the Frequencies were outdated for some airports compared to what foreflight has. Do they charge me to update those? As per Ed, yes they do. You should have gotten a plug in "cradel" for the 796 from the owner. When updating it can take a long time so you will want it in that cradle. If you did not get one, you should call the previous owner. Go to the "fly garmin" web site and you can see the updating expenses. Sounds like yours may be way out of date and needs a software update for the operating system as well. That may be free. You may also be able to update using the removable SD card. You will see that after taking the unit out of the dash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 17 minutes ago, Duane Jefts said: As per Ed, yes they do. You should have gotten a plug in "cradel" for the 796 from the owner. When updating it can take a long time so you will want it in that cradle. If you did not get one, you should call the previous owner. Go to the "fly garmin" web site and you can see the updating expenses. Sounds like yours may be way out of date and needs a software update for the operating system as well. That may be free. You may also be able to update using the removable SD card. You will see that after taking the unit out of the dash. I don't see the expense to update the frequencies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 11 hours ago, Animosity2k said: I don't see the expense to update the frequencies? Never mind. It's just the bundles. $149 for just the US for the year. Seems pricey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportFlyer1 Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Really? I've never heard anyone mention Garmin as being a bunch of expensive, money grubbing, highway robbers before ... oh wait, that was me in my head, lol. I only have experience with the 696 which I tilt out of the cradle and remove the SD card to be refilled from my PC through FlyGarmin. Actually I have 2 SD cards that I rotate, so I can pop in the new one and go fly right away. Since the 796 has Bluetooth, I'm surprised they don't update that way using an app, or through Garmin Pilot. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmInce Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 5 hours ago, Animosity2k said: Never mind. It's just the bundles. $149 for just the US for the year. Seems pricey! It's Garmin . . . go figue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 $199 if you want North America which includes Canada and Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 Ill try to remove my screen tomorrow and see how easy it is! I remember someone saying it was almost impossible to remove from a CTLSi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okent Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 SportFlyer1, is there any particular type of SD card that is necessary for the 696? I will just buy a second card like you have and rotate them out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Animosity2k said: Ill try to remove my screen tomorrow and see how easy it is! I remember someone saying it was almost impossible to remove from a CTLSi. Not difficult. Just make sure you turn the 3mm hex head a quarter turn and pull the 796 out from the right side first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 2 hours ago, okent said: SportFlyer1, is there any particular type of SD card that is necessary for the 696? I will just buy a second card like you have and rotate them out. I would call garmin on the SD card thing. I just updated mine today and I just plugged it into my laptop and downloaded the new updates. You need to have Garmin Desktop installed but once on the "Fly Garmin" website it takes you through all the necessary steps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, Duane Jefts said: Not difficult. Just make sure you turn the 3mm hex head a quarter turn and pull the 796 out from the right side first. So I do not fully remove the 4 corner screws but just loosen them? And then is there just one wire on the back of the screen? I did NOT get a cradle from the original owner, is there another method to updating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Baker Posted July 16, 2019 Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 I suggest that you post a picture of your installation. Often people speak from experience based on their aircraft, and not all CT's are the same, even 796 installations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Animosity2k said: So I do not fully remove the 4 corner screws but just loosen them? And then is there just one wire on the back of the screen? I did NOT get a cradle from the original owner, is there another method to updating? Post a picture please. Cradle not required but nice. A simple usb cord to computer and ‘photo type’ connector on the other end, to the 796,will work. I would still call the previous owner for the rest of your 796 related stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SportFlyer1 Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 okent, my 696 uses a 4 gig SD card, I don't think it can handle a bigger one. Mine is an SD HC version, although I doubt it matters much. The unit reads the card at startup and if there is a difference between its internal database and the SD database, it will ask if you want to update. Reading the SD card takes some time, so don't do it if you're in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 10 hours ago, Duane Jefts said: Post a picture please. Cradle not required but nice. A simple usb cord to computer and ‘photo type’ connector on the other end, to the 796,will work. I would still call the previous owner for the rest of your 796 related stuff. Will do. I am going up to the hangar today. Do you happen to know what size HEX screw it is or should I just bring all the allen wrenches I have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Vance Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, SportFlyer1 said: okent, my 696 uses a 4 gig SD card, I don't think it can handle a bigger one. Mine is an SD HC version, although I doubt it matters much. The unit reads the card at startup and if there is a difference between its internal database and the SD database, it will ask if you want to update. Reading the SD card takes some time, so don't do it if you're in a hurry. I use an 8 gig SD HC with the 696. As SportFlyer1 mentioned, you can access the 696 SD slot (in at least some installations) by releasing it and tilting it out a bit. I usually update it while doing touch & go’s or airwork, to eliminate the need to pull it out. I’m not familiar with the 796 cradles, but it seems there might be a way to access the slot without removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Animosity2k said: Will do. I am going up to the hangar today. Do you happen to know what size HEX screw it is or should I just bring all the allen wrenches I have? 3mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okent Posted July 17, 2019 Report Share Posted July 17, 2019 Thanks SportFlyer1 and John Vance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animosity2k Posted July 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Didn't work on it, brought wrong size hex wrench! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Jefts Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 12 minutes ago, Animosity2k said: Didn't work on it, brought wrong size hex wrench! Did you take a picture to post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tip Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 You will need a set of these. https://www.harborfreight.com/10-pc-metric-t-handle-hex-key-set-69370.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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