Andy A Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I am considering selling our 2014 CTLSi. It meets the 2020 ADSB mandate and just had the 5 year rubber replacement done with the annual inspection in January 2020. Garmin 796 and upgraded Garmin NAV/COM Radio. Tundra Tires. It has about 250 hours total time. I really enjoyed this plane and it served its purpose of getting me back into flying, but I am ready to move on to something with more seats, faster and IFR capable. I need to take some pictures, but these are just a couple I had on my phone. I'm thinking about asking $125,000. I'll probably put it on Barnstormers when I get some more pictures. It is based at Marion County, SC (KMAO) about 40 miles from North Myrtle Beach, SC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunkworks85 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 What are you thinking for a replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy A Posted June 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 I'd like to have a 2002-2006 Cessna 182, but I think that is more than I am willing to spend. I might have to settle for a 182RG and upgrade it over time. 150 knots, 700 to 800 lb useful load with full fuel and 12-14 gph fuel burn. Coming from a Twin Cessna background, I never thought I would want a high wing Cessna. My father had a Cessna 310 for my entire childhood and I would like to get something that I can keep for a long time. Over the years life gets in the way and I have gone extended periods of time without flying and I feel a 182 would be a forgiving airplane if that should happen again. After doing my research I am finding the fuel burn isn't terrible, they are reasonably fast (the RG's are pretty fast), they can fly pretty slow (which I consider safe), they have a large useful load, parts are readily available and it should make a good family traveler for my family of three. I also think 182s are similar to gold in the fact that they are always in demand and have never been worth nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skunkworks85 Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 That is a good Choice, Have you looked at some of the experimentals? RV-10? Glasair Sportsman? I am not sure I would ever buy a certified plane. to much bureaucracy for me.. Additionally, Im not sure I would give up the BRS. It sure is a comfort to have that option. Granted you can have it installed in a 182,($20k +40 hours if install) (Sorry to hijack the thread but was curious about the thought process) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trip Posted June 30, 2020 Report Share Posted June 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, Andy A said: I'd like to have a 2002-2006 Cessna 182, but I think that is more than I am willing to spend. I might have to settle for a 182RG and upgrade it over time. 150 knots, 700 to 800 lb useful load with full fuel and 12-14 gph fuel burn. Coming from a Twin Cessna background, I never thought I would want a high wing Cessna. My father had a Cessna 310 for my entire childhood and I would like to get something that I can keep for a long time. Over the years life gets in the way and I have gone extended periods of time without flying and I feel a 182 would be a forgiving airplane if that should happen again. After doing my research I am finding the fuel burn isn't terrible, they are reasonably fast (the RG's are pretty fast), they can fly pretty slow (which I consider safe), they have a large useful load, parts are readily available and it should make a good family traveler for my family of three. I also think 182s are similar to gold in the fact that they are always in demand and have never been worth nothing. Andy, I sent you a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy A Posted July 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 I have a few requirements for a new plane. 1. 4 seats and a moderate useful load. 2. The ability to carry 2 mountain bikes and 2 adults. 3. I would prefer a metal airplane, I know carbon fiber is strong, but I question the long term cosmetic durability. I've have lots of experience with carbon fiber bikes and paddleboards, and while they are strong, they do have a fragile feel to them and generally the finish starts to show signs of wear in a few years. 4. I enjoyed the BRS in the CTLSi, but its not a big deal to me on my next plane. 5. I enjoyed the Rotax engine and think its a great engine, but it is difficult to find someone in my area that would work on it. I also would like to get away from the mandatory 5 year rubber replacement. 6. Ability to file IFR in IMC conditions. I'm not looking to fly approaches to minimum, but I would like the ability to climb and descend through could layers. 7. I'd like a cruising speed of at least 130ish knots, preferably faster. 8. I like the Cirrus SR22, but I don't want to deal with the 25 grand parachute repack every 10 years. 9. I don't want to be limited to long paved runways. I don't need STOL, but I do like to go into grass strips on occasion. I'm OK with Experimental, however, I have pretty limited time with a small child and successful business. I like to so some minor "tinkering" on my plane, but now I just want something that is reliable and I can get serviced easily at most shops if I need to. Maybe later in life, I'll go the Experimental route, but now its just easier to go certified. I was never a big fan of the 182, but I always understood its place in GA. The older I get, the more sense it makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassStripFlyBoy Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 To your earlier point about gold, true - you can't go wrong with a 182. I'll toss into the ring for consideration the Maule in either tri-gear, or tailwheel. Tuff bird with IFR capability, and that side door for loading gear would be a plus. Downside is fabric covering on the fuse, metal wing though, not a bad compromise. I'd opt for the tailwheel, that would be fun flier and serve the missions your describing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okent Posted July 1, 2020 Report Share Posted July 1, 2020 Andy, I'm in the same boat. I bought my CTLS to learn to fly in and it is a great plane. I now have a change in mission where I need to be able to fly 500 and 800NM at least once a quarter with 3 passengers and occasionally 6. Also will be starting my IFR training. I partnered in a Baron 58P that is about an hour away but will need to build twin time so I'm looking at a B55 to acquire and fly locally. Hate to sell the CTLS but it just doesn't fit my mission any more. I also partnered in a Kitfox S7 and it should be ready by the end of the year. That way I have something to fly for local fun. Headed to Idaho/Stick and Rudder next Thursday for tailwheel and backcountry training in the kitfox. I may just keep the CTLS anyway. Hard choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercity Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 On 6/30/2020 at 9:58 AM, Andy A said: I'd like to have a 2002-2006 Cessna 182, but I think that is more than I am willing to spend. I might have to settle for a 182RG and upgrade it over time. 150 knots, 700 to 800 lb useful load with full fuel and 12-14 gph fuel burn. Coming from a Twin Cessna background, I never thought I would want a high wing Cessna. My father had a Cessna 310 for my entire childhood and I would like to get something that I can keep for a long time. Over the years life gets in the way and I have gone extended periods of time without flying and I feel a 182 would be a forgiving airplane if that should happen again. After doing my research I am finding the fuel burn isn't terrible, they are reasonably fast (the RG's are pretty fast), they can fly pretty slow (which I consider safe), they have a large useful load, parts are readily available and it should make a good family traveler for my family of three. I also think 182s are similar to gold in the fact that they are always in demand and have never been worth nothing. We are going to be putting our 1978 182RG up for sale soon, might consider a trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy A Posted July 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Coppercity I sent you a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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