Karl Posted November 10, 2012 Report Share Posted November 10, 2012 I've put a deposit on my new Ctls in mid June had to pay the remainer early September and yesterday that tell me that there been some production delays and delivery will be 6 to 8 weeks later What is the time frame between order and delivery in the USA at the moment I'm from Australia Thanks for any response Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Posted November 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Just a update on my delivery status. Still waiting and getting very frustrated . Latest forecasted delivery date is now mid December 2013 The hardest thing is following this forum seeing delivery of a jubilee CTLSI knowing that they came available some 4 months after my order. Not sure if it's gone happen ,I fully paid for it September 2012 for a December 2012 delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runtoeat Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Karl, the last I was involved with the order of a new plane was back in '09 for my friend's CTLS. It was promised in 3 months but took 9. This was during a period of high demand for the CT but also production facilities were being expanded. A main factor at this time also here in the states was that the CT's were shipped three to a ocean transport container. If there wasn't 3 CT's available to ship, they would wait. I think this still holds true. Most recently, I've heard, and others here might know better, that FD Germany has shifted major resources into the C4 program to hasten bringing this airplane to market. Nothing worse than plunking down your money in good faith and then sitting on your hands waiting. Hope you get your Christmas present this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 Do you have the delivery date or date range in writing in the sales contract? If so you might be able to squeeze a discount or some freebie upgrades out of them, or cancel the order and get your money back if that is your preference. Nothing irks me more than being given a timeline for a product or service and having that date being wildly wrong. This might be a good warning to others. If the slick airplane sales guy promises you a delivery date, get it in writing and the penalties for non-compliance as well. I bet they would have been on time if the contract specified they have to return $1000 of your purchase price for each month they are late... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 BTW, I'm jealous...one of my ultimate trips would be to fly my CT across Australia. I think it's one of the most beautiful and wild areas left on the planet, and the natives speak English! It will probably never happen, but I can dream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Posted November 11, 2013 Report Share Posted November 11, 2013 In 2011 my CTLS took 7 months from order to deliverly. The CTLSi ordered Sun in fun 2012 delivered July 2013, flying October 2013, still worth the wait. My C-4 position number 77 is expected late 2016. Farmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Posted March 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Still waiting for delivery but it should get shipped soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anticept Posted March 4, 2014 Report Share Posted March 4, 2014 Yikes. A year and a half would also make me very upset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted March 5, 2014 Report Share Posted March 5, 2014 Yeah long wait...she's a beauty though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karl Posted May 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 She has arrived waiting for C of A and registration with CASA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT4ME Posted May 14, 2014 Report Share Posted May 14, 2014 Yikes! Almost two years! I can just feel the anticipation of flying it... tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manuco Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 As I can see, I'm not the only one who had this kind of delay... without explanations... I waited for 18 months (and we don't have the shipping problem between Germany and Belgium...) I hope you'll forget all this wasted time once you'll be in the air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctlsjo Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Hello I am a french pilot and the owner of a 2009 CTLS (500 h today). In december 2012, I ordered a new CTLSi Jubilee and paid a deposit . In april 2013, I paid totally the price and I waited for 18 months . Hopfully, I hope my plane at the end of June. I flew to Kamenz the last month and now I think the delay will be more short. Twelve planes were almost ready (many Jubille for US). My question, due to the delay, can I expect a discount? What is the custom in US? Sorry , my English is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Lee Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 Sorry, no discounts here in the US. It's the same price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 I generally think it's a bad idea to completely pre-pay for expensive items. At that point the vendor has no more incentive to deliver in any timely fashion, or to ensure quality of the product delivered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 You pay the amount and in the manner the manufacturer says you pay or you don't get the product. As a customer you always have the choice to not play. But these toys are worth the wait. Does FD require payment in full on new aircraft before they are delivered? I'd be happy to pay up to half up front and half on delivery day. I would not pay entirely up front on a $150k+ vehicle sight unseen. If I don't get to play as a result, so be it. I'll buy one in stock I can look at first or buy used. No car dealer would require those terms, why should aircraft manufacturers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingMonkey Posted June 13, 2014 Report Share Posted June 13, 2014 MrMorden. You may be able to find a new plane someone ordered and they will sell to you for their $30k deposit in order to beat the delay a bit. How we got ours was we were told about a plane a dealer ordered in May of 2013. In Aug of 2013 we wrote a check for $30k on a plane still being manufactured. We waited until August of 2014 when the plane finally arrived at Lone Mountain and was assembled and test flown. We wrote a check for the balance at that time. And took delivery of the plane. That all makes sense if you wrote the check as you took delivery, that is what I would expect and demand if it were my money! Congrats on the C4, I know a lot of people on here look forward to getting more information about it when you take delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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